There are many ways to measure business success that have little to do with chasing that tantalizing $1 million revenue dream. In this episode of All-In, Daniel focuses the  conversation on creating abundance of the kind that drives Wally Carmichael both personally and professionally. As host of both the Men of Abundance and Business Owner Growth podcasts, Wally focuses on the intersection between building success and living successfully. He has developed best practices and tools to help entrepreneurs evolve their businesses while also weaving in all kinds of life lessons gleaned in a long career as a U.S. Army Medic, father, husband and active community member. Together Daniel and Wally share their perspective as dads who value being actively involved in their children’s lives and their belief that there are things in life far more important than the single-minded goal of becoming one of the 4% of entrepreneurial ventures that break the million dollar mark for profitability. As the saying goes, “Some of the best things in life are free.” Wally suggests that income is great but of equal value are things like an abundance of time with family and freedom from debt. This episode also features useful advice for business owners about using mentors to spur growth and the importance of delegating tasks (such as marketing, sales and accounting) to ensure you’re focused appropriately on the core business you’re cultivating. Lots of great perspective from two men who have made living abundantly their mission and their quality of family life the key to meaningful success.